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Likely Losing the Money Paid for the 2019 Half Marathon Registration

With the early bird registration for next year’s half marathon opening awfully early and ending yesterday, I wanted to take advantage of the offer. Not that I was certain that I actually wanted to enter for quite a while, thinking that the only reason to do so anymore would be to aim to get under 1:45 and the issues with my legs making that even more unlikely than it would have been on its own, so I at least wanted to go to a doctor and know how I stand, but that didn’t happen yet and I just had to go for it. Should have happened, since dad had gotten the name and number of the leg doctor from the clinic our family doctor also works at, but since he was away most of last week, he said he’ll call him to schedule an appointment after he’ll get back, then Monday he forgot about it and Tuesday he said he couldn’t find his number anymore, and he still hadn’t found it Thursday, so I was out of time and had to just register and hope I’ll be fine by then, somehow.
Now I had told him, a month or so ago when we discussed it, that the registration was now done through ENDU and the payment was in Euros, but apparently that last part went right by him when he said he now has a card that can handle such payments, so it’ll be fine, because when I told him again now he said he can’t pay in anything but RON, he clearly remembers being asked about payments in other currencies and refusing the option. So we had a tense “conversation”, with him doing what he usually does, being aggressive and just repeating something until the other gives in, in this case calling the payment processor suspicious for not allowing regular payments from here by any method, and also first telling me he wanted to see all payment options, then stopping me from canceling the one already selected so it won’t mess something up. And, of course, I countered his aggressivity with mine and went through the options, getting back to wire transfer after he left, since it was the only one possible, the account being the one of the group from here that organizes the event, so not being an international transfer, even though the payment was still supposed to be in Euros. The thing is that the payment, if done through this method, was simply listed as 20.00 EUR, while for any other method it was 21.95 EUR, with the 1.95 EUR being fees.
Either way, I left that method selected and had already sent him the information, so he printed it out and took it with him when he went for a massage, but then called me to say he won’t reach the bank he has that card at that day, which also means not until Monday, since yesterday was a free day here as well, so no chance to enable, perhaps temporarily, the option to pay in foreign currencies and make that payment by card after all. And I guess doing the wire transfer then was quite out of the question, since he’d have had to reach a branch of their bank and, while quite a few are open later, those’d all be out of his way. The thing is that he could have still made that wire transfer yesterday, he even was at Auchan just a bit before I got back there and that’s where that branch is, that being one of those that were open yesterday as well, but I only saw that when I got there Thursday evening, after he had told me that he had already been told by them that they’ll be closed Friday, missing the fact that the notification didn’t apply to branches at hypermarkets or malls.
Not knowing that and being left with no other options, I shaved and waited for him to get back, then let him know I’ll go to their branch at Auchan before it closes, grabbed the printed information from him since he already had it, and ran off, fortunately the free bus getting here right on time, at 7:15 PM, though that did mean I waited for a while, since I was at the stop at 7:08 PM, in case it’ll be early. Had also taken the metro card to rush to the one at Cora if I’ll be too late, since that closes at 9 PM while the one at Auchan at 8 PM, but I was somehow the only person on that free bus that time around and the driver rather rushed, so I was waiting in line quite quickly and at 7:40 PM it was already my turn. That was where the things that worked ended though…
The first issue was that, when I asked to be told how much I’ll actually need to pay, in RON, I was told I’ll first need to buy Euros and then pay with that, and their exchange rate was 4.725 RON / EUR, while the official one was 4.656 and the three other places offering exchanges there, including the one right next to them, displayed a rate of 4.68, so I could have saved a little bit if I’d have exchanged the money first, if I’d have known that was needed. But that was a tiny issue, the next being some confusion for the cashier, who was probably new and at first asked me for a 5 RON fee on top of the amount due, which seemed very fine, being even lower than the 1.95 EUR which would have been added by the site for any other payment method. However, after exchanging the money, when she was actually making the transfer, she asked the other cashier what to do, they discussed it for a while, I heard something about a 3 EUR fee but that the payer isn’t concerned with that, and it all ended with her telling the other one: “Well, tell me; how was I supposed to know? Now I have to give him the money back.” And she did just that, returning the 5 RON and saying I pay no fee, which seemed even nicer.
Well, when things seem too good to be true, they usually are, and after it was all done and she handed me the receipt, she pointed out that a 3 EUR fee was applied, but paid by those I transferred the money to, so they actually received 17, but telling me that they should have clearly specified if I was required to cover it myself, as these fees are for businesses the money are paid to and they’re aware of them, so if the e-mail said 20 EUR, 20 EUR should normally be what I need to pay. Other than what I happened to catch from their conversation, they didn’t make me aware of that fee before completing the transfer, so no way to change things before it was completed, though yesterday I was told it could have been voided if I’d have said so on the spot and they could have changed it, adding the 3 EUR, if I’d have demanded it specifically. The thing is that, after wandering off and going inside Auchan at first, I did think that I really should demand that, or at least that it would make sense for the fee to be added to this as it is for the other methods as well, but the transaction was finished at 7:49 PM and by the time I rushed back I slammed into a locked door, seeing that it was exactly 8 PM when I checked the time.
Meant to leave after that, nothing else to do, but saw none of the buses that’d take me back here waiting to leave, and even though there was some time until the next one was supposed to come, I wondered if it hadn’t left early, since the one that drove me there had gone right to the station and then left with the next people as soon as I stepped off, even though it was quite a while before it was supposed to leave again. So I went back to Auchan and looked for bread, finding none in one place and just one bag left of another kind I was looking at, but enough of the other kind, with bags not torn, to cover this next period. There was an employee restocking the entire bread area, but she was moving slowly, apparently wasn’t going to get any more of the first kind out and the other two kinds were rather at the end of her list, so she hadn’t even gotten to them by the time I headed to the checkout, in time to catch the next free bus, so I just grabbed five of that other kind… Or did so on my second attempt, because when I was looking at them the first time some guy grabbed a bag of hot dog buns, which were also in that area, loudly announcing that it was the best kind of bread and asking whether I agreed and whether I recommended it, so I ran away and probably rather shut down for a while, since when I found myself back there it was already 8:30 PM and I can’t say I did much of anything in between.
Returning to the payment, the thing is that I had asked the organizers for some details before leaving, first sending a message on their Facebook page, then sending an e-mail after being told to do so, but that message to tell me to send an e-mail was the only reply I got so far. Even added another message to the support ticket opened after getting back, then one more after I got back yesterday, and also sent another message on Facebook before leaving yesterday, but there were no replies, even though the message sent on Facebook was apparently seen. So I thought I had screwed myself, not even having any chance to fix things anymore, and was quite out cold. Less so than I am now, though…

Still, I did have another chance to fix things, since those branches of this bank that are in hypermarkets or malls were open yesterday as well, even if they closed earlier than they normally would, and I had seen that posted on the door when I got there, so could have just turned back Thursday and asked dad to go there yesterday anyway, even more so since he went to Auchan then anyway, not that I knew that then. But as it was, I just pretty much shut down and decided to get right back there the next day myself and see what could still be done, first hoping I’ll get a reply to either confirm that the payment was fine like that or to clearly say that it wasn’t, then going to ask those at the bank again when I failed to find any reply from the organizers.
Meant to take the free bus again, but was out five minutes early and waited for 12 minutes without it coming, so just walked almost all the way, seeing one bus get to the last stop before the destination just as I was getting there as well and, oddly enough, stopping because a few people were getting off there, so I ran in and used it for that final stop as well. Then first went to all three exchange offices that are there, asking for just three Euros, thinking I’ll get them at the better rate, one even listing 4.675 RON / EUR then, and insist on just sending that much, having any fee waived for this second transfer since it wasn’t my fault it was needed. However, that was the second thing that didn’t work as expected, since all said they didn’t have Euro coins, only being able to give bills, so starting at five EUR.
With nothing else to do, got to the bank, seeing just one cashier and not recognizing her as the one who had given the one who had worked with me the information about fees until she told me that she remembered me because she was there. The other one was also there, but in the back room, only coming out around the end of the conversation I had with her coworker and not saying anything, though her coworker told her who I was and why I had returned. And a conversation was all I got, since my determination to get them to remove that fee, even asking to see a manager or whoever I’d need to talk to, obviously evaporated as soon as I actually had to say anything, and the cashier repeated that firms should know those fees and the e-mail should have specified 23 EUR if I’d have had to cover the fee too, and either way, that transaction could have been voided if I’d have said so on the spot, but now it’s another day and it’d have to be a new transaction to cover the difference, so I’d need to pay 6 EUR to send that, which she agreed was messed up.
I did ask whether there was any way to have that fee waived a few times, but she said it can’t happen, because they’re checked a lot and it’ll be quickly noticed and they’d need to pay it themselves, which isn’t fair because her coworker did exactly what she was supposed to do. She also agreed that it wasn’t my fault either, also saying that people making such payments may not even know of such fees and it’s not their business to know about them, but said she couldn’t do anything and told me to contact the organizers, send them a picture of the receipt as proof that I sent 20 EUR, and see what they say. Also, when I said the offer expired that day and I may be left with the money spent, since there are no refunds, but also that the e-mail stated I had two business to pay, she said that, even if some branches are open, Friday wasn’t a business day and Saturday and Sunday definitely won’t be, so if I absolutely must cover the difference I should still be able to do so Monday, if not also even Tuesday, and should at least think it over until then. But, of course, if those I’m making the payment to won’t see it that way, the fact that she said so won’t help me any more than the fact that she said 20 EUR should be all I had to pay in the first place.
When I left, I was just in time to see the free bus I needed drive past the gate, so I had to stay at least a little longer and could have still turned back and paid the 6 EUR, perhaps after exchanging five at one of the other offices just to spite the bank, wasting 3 EUR but making sure I was covered, and maybe if it wasn’t needed I’d have gotten a voucher for those 3 EUR paid above the fee, to use next time. But I didn’t, instead waiting for the buses coming ten minutes later and deciding to take one instead of the other, thinking I’ll get back faster that way, only to see the other one drive past me before I got to the stop where I’d have gotten off it. But I wasn’t “processing” much of anything anymore at that point, just thinking that I could have just risked losing at most 6 EUR, and probably just three, but instead of that I risk losing all 20, since they clearly say there are no refunds and, in fact, in case of wire transfers specify again that anything paid that way for an order that’s not completed will not be returned, so unless it really is fine the way I did it, I’m fucked.
Didn’t want to tell dad what happened, just said first, Thursday, that we’d both get angry, then that I berate myself enough when he asked again last evening, but last night he insisted on e-mail, from work, starting to guess and guessing wrong and starting to offer other ideas that scared and annoyed me even worse, so I eventually told him, saying that from then on I won’t be checking my e-mail or reading any notes he’ll leave here, and will be running and hiding from him around the apartment so we won’t talk in any way. And also haven’t made salad for the past two nights, won’t tonight either, didn’t make the other thing I had originally planned to make last night either, and that’s how it’ll be from now on, because I need to recover this loss and I already planned to get as little as possible from now on and save all I can, so until I’ll know how things stand I must assume I lost everything and will need months to recover it under these circumstances, while if I’ll be told I need to pay that remaining amount and can do so Monday, and will therefore need to pay 6 EUR then, I’ll need to pretty much get nothing else over these next two weeks to recover that 3 EUR loss. If somehow it’ll be fine the way I did it, on the other hand, maybe I’ll get myself something sweet or who knows what… But I doubt that will be the case…

As for today, stayed in bed until 4:20 PM, went to the toilet once during that time, while dad was away, then did rush to the toilet after getting up but he went out again while I was still there, so could make tea and grab something to eat too, then third time to the toilet while he was showering, fourth time while he was making something in the kitchen and he stayed there… Otherwise, checked a guide to figure out what I actually had to do to win that final Syron scenario on Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic, since the objectives aren’t clear enough and I had already defeated the enemies, so guess I’ll get that done now, though I don’t know whether I’ll manage it tonight or tomorrow. There is one more scenario after that though, and since it’s already choppy again, doubt I’ll manage to finish that as well before it’ll no longer start, so will have to rush to do it after the next reboot, probably after this month’s updates, if I want to finish, and review, another game by the end of the year. And I have to read two more books this month too, if I want to get to 12 actual books read this year as well, so should get on that too… Just hope there won’t be any issues with the computer at least, though I’m noticing a few double spaces again, including one as I was writing this post. Can’t quite be sure I’m not actually pressing twice by accident though, at least not yet, so I’ll wait and see, and either way this won’t stop me from finishing the game or reading. It’d be really frustrating though…


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